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should I use one keywords per page or use LSI?

 
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scorpio
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: should I use one keywords per page or use LSI? Reply with quote

Hello Charles, I only discovered SEO200 a few weeks ago and started reading the plan I could see immediatley that this is the correct way to do things. I an setting up a site with tennis as the theme, been doing some keyword research on "tennis lessons" and came up with a list of 16 related terms for same, now my dilema is how do I make use of these terms? they all seems to attract some decent traffic!

    tennis tutorial
    learning tennis
    tennis learning
    tennis playing
    lessons for tennis
    tutorial for tennis
    tennis training
    tennis course
    course for tennis
    class for tennis
    tennis classes
    tennis school
    tennis videos
    tennis instructions
    tennis books

since the terms means the same thing and I'm trying to rank for all of them do i
(a) create a page per keyword and end up with 16 pages of more or less the same content
(b) create fewer number of pages and use 2-3 terms per page and end up with 5-6 pages?
(c) follow LSI and have these as related terms on a single page
(d) is there a better way to use all the above

I woul dreally appreciate your advice because I feel this will really help me as I start to expand the site.

I plan to have many sub-niches (silos), would you use XSite Pro to build the site (not easy but not impossible either) or would you go for a CMS? and what CMS would you recommend?

scorpio
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scorpio
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Joined: 15 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone any suggestions please?
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sidhale
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 94
Location: Midlothian, VA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: should I use one keywords per page or use LSI? Reply with quote

scorpio wrote:
Hello Charles, I only discovered SEO200 a few weeks ago ...

I an setting up a site with tennis as the theme, been doing some keyword research on "tennis lessons" and came up with a list of 16 related terms for same, now my dilema is how do I make use of these terms? they all seems to attract some decent traffic!

    tennis tutorial
    learning tennis
    tennis learning
    tennis playing
    lessons for tennis
    tutorial for tennis
    tennis training
    tennis course
    course for tennis
    class for tennis
    tennis classes
    tennis school
    tennis videos
    tennis instructions
    tennis books

since the terms means the same thing and I'm trying to rank for all of them do i
(a) create a page per keyword and end up with 16 pages of more or less the same content
(b) create fewer number of pages and use 2-3 terms per page and end up with 5-6 pages?
(c) follow LSI and have these as related terms on a single page
(d) is there a better way to use all the above


Since Charles didn't answer...
I would opt for option (b).

I think trying to use ALL of those terms on a single page could hurt you rather than help - and option (b) is still an LSI compliant strategy (just not taking it to extremes)
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I plan to have many sub-niches (silos), would you use XSite Pro to build the site (not easy but not impossible either) or would you go for a CMS? and what CMS would you recommend?

My own recommendation is Wordpress with Rapid Niche Websites (for much enhanced SEO). I won't go into all the reasons, as I would sound like a broken record. I'm sure you can find my opinions laid out elsewhere. I would mention that the latest release of RNW contains themes and plugins specifically designed to implement TMP, along with videos showing you how to do it.

Hope this helps,

sid
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scorpio
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Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Sid
It's always great to get another view point , since making the post I have been rethinking, and it dawned on me that there are two groups of keywords in that list (my thinking maybe off the wall but it seems to offer better scope, I think!)

I can split them into 2 groups

group a - diffferent ways of describing act of learning
    tennis tutorial
    learning tennis
    tennis learning
    tennis playing
    lessons for tennis
    tutorial for tennis
    tennis training
    tennis course


group b - different ways for delivering the learning
    class for tennis
    tennis school
    tennis videos
    tennis books
    course for tennis

I can use group b as sub-niches of tennis lessons and use group a keywords to point to these sub-niches

scorpio
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sidhale
SEO Red Belt


Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 94
Location: Midlothian, VA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi scorpio,

You can also ignore flip-flopped words, and disregard "noise" words.

For instance, "lessons for tennis" becomes "lessons tennis" or "tennis lessons" and "tutorial for tennis" can become "tutorial tennis" (which, in turn, can be combined with tennis tutorial).
There's no need to optimize for all those different permutaions of the same phrase. Treat them as duplicates and weed out any duplication.

sid
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scorpio
SEO White Belt


Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid thank you sir,
you sites look very good, I'm on my way over to look at RNW now, do you have an affliate link?, I might just decide to buy while I'm there Very Happy
PM me if you prefer
scorpio

one other thing, can I sell websites I build with RNW?
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sidhale
SEO Red Belt


Joined: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 94
Location: Midlothian, VA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi scorpio,

scorpio wrote:
Sid thank you sir,
you sites look very good, I'm on my way over to look at RNW now, do you have an affliate link?, I might just decide to buy while I'm there Very Happy
PM me if you prefer
scorpio

one other thing, can I sell websites I build with RNW?

My link to RNW is Rapid Niche Websites

There are proprietary plugins in RNW that you aren't allowed to sell, but others have asked and Jeff has indicated a willingness to negotiate.

I would expect that since you would be supporting your own customers, and they wouldn't be installing Rapid Formatter to modify the site, he would be willing to grant you a separate license (maybe on a per-site basis) allowing you to re-license just those pieces of the product that would have to be present on your client's site. You could just bundle that small additional cost into the price to your client.

sid
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