SEO 2020 FORUM

[satyajit1]

Hello charles and other members , I have some confusions about social bookmarking (although i use 32 services on my blog http://marketing-easy.blogspot.com).
When i bookmark a post of my blog and add tag while bookmarking , Does n't it work as a backlink to my site from the social bookmarking site?
and

[Charles Heflin]

Hi satyajit1,

When you bookmark a post of your blog you get listed on the social bookmarking sites that you tagged.

You are right, you are gaining backlinks from authority sites by doing this.

Here comes the BUT:

One purpose of obtaining backlinks is to increase your own websites PR ranking to aid in driving your site up in the SERPs. With social bookmarking you will get some PR passed to your site sometimes, it is inevitable... It will happen, but in many cases your backlink is bumped down to a page on the bookmarking site that has no PR because of other posts coming in on top of yours.

Also, many bookmarking sites link to your site through one of their own internal redirect links. This will not count as a backlink in the eyes of the search engines for ranking purposes.

Some tags that you list your site under have great PR and relatively low volume of posts so you can get PR backlinks that will pass PR and count as a backlink to your site provided that they link directly to your site and don't redirect through one of their own links.

I will continue to add to the free tutorial to include links to bookmarking sites that may pass PR.

Any link to your site is good, especially of it is on topic because you will get free traffic. 90% of this sites traffic is coming through social bookmarking at the time of this post.

The method works, just don't approach it as a tool to gain backlinks for the purpose of rising in the SERPs as your main focus... This is surely a benefit that will come by concentrating on writing good content. You will inevitably get PR passed to you from these sites just don't concentrate on that aspect... consider it a bonus for a job well done.

Best regards,

Charles

[themezoom]

Yes I agree that these methods will not work as well as many people hope.

_____________________________

After completing the Tag and Ping e-book by Sean Hu,

I have some most useful insights about it.

Special thanks to Jason K for inspiring some excellent ideas on how to use it!

Final conclusion:

Will Tag and Ping last? Will is survive the rush of new people destined to spam the crap out of the social bookmarking networks?

I don't think ALL of Tag and Ping methods will survive past September 2006.

Not in the way Sean Hu is selling it, with mass (single user) social bookmarking hub pages. Delicious.com is probably reading Sean's e-book as we speak. All they have to do is make it more difficult to get a delicious account and start checking IP addresses. Sure, it is always possible to fool the system . . . but why bother. There are easier ways to use social bookmarking to gain massive traffic.

But Recommending your own websites with 40-100 fake social bookmarking accounts?

The whole purpose of social bookmarking is defeated by such a strategy (although I thought about doing it anyway just for fun in order to check it out.) The "white hat" angel on my right should was arguing with the "black hat" devil on my left. The conversation was very short. "Don't bother" -both of them agreed.

What I DO like is the idea of creating a software to locate under-optimized hubs (untagged) and begin to promote them across your network until the hub itself becomes popular.

By hub I mean http://www.technorati.com/blogs/[keyword]

Using the technorati/tags/ function (and similar pages on other types of directories) it would be possible to create a "hub mining" software based on keyword. I would like to do this in Theme Zoom to give the user a keyword alert called "tag and ping" . . .

One feature Jason K of “portal feeder” suggested is make sure to allow the user to set the "time since last post" when mining for technorati “hub” pages.

This would allow a user to disregard "hubs" with high pageranks if the last post was too recently. It is a bit more difficult to use these pages as back-links when recent posts are scrolling your post off the page every 2 hours. What you want is a “hub” page that is highly ranked and that few people are posting about- or are tagged for.

I would prefer that to be a manual setting . . . the user decides what qualifies as “recent” and what does not. For example, I would STILL want to be informed of high ranking “hubs” even if the post was 3 hours ago . . . for my own reasons.

Pretty easy code to write for this little “hub” miner- heh?

If anyone has already written this - let us know!

- RussellAfter completing the Tag and Ping e-book by Sean Hu,

I have some most useful insights about it.

Special thanks to Jason K for inspiring some excellent ideas on how to use it!

Final conclusion:

Will Tag and Ping last? Will is survive the rush of new people destined to spam the crap out of the social bookmarking networks?

I don't think ALL of Tag and Ping methods will survive past September 2006.

Not in the way Sean Hu is selling it, with mass (single user) social bookmarking hub pages. Delicious.com is probably reading Sean's e-book as we speak. All they have to do is make it more difficult to get a delicious account and start checking IP addresses. Sure, it is always possible to fool the system . . . but why bother. There are easier ways to use social bookmarking to gain massive traffic.

But Recommending your own websites with 40-100 fake social bookmarking accounts?

The whole purpose of social bookmarking is defeated by such a strategy (although I thought about doing it anyway just for fun in order to check it out.) The "white hat" angel on my right should was arguing with the "black hat" devil on my left. The conversation was very short. "Don't bother" -both of them agreed.

What I DO like is the idea of creating a software to locate under-optimized hubs (untagged) and begin to promote them across your network until the hub itself becomes popular.

By hub I mean http://www.technorati.com/blogs/[keyword]

Using the technorati/tags/ function (and similar pages on other types of directories) it would be possible to create a "hub mining" software based on keyword. I would like to do this in Theme Zoom to give the user a keyword alert called "tag and ping" . . .

One feature Jason K of “portal feeder” suggested is make sure to allow the user to set the "time since last post" when mining for technorati “hub” pages.

This would allow a user to disregard "hubs" with high pageranks if the last post was too recently. It is a bit more difficult to use these pages as back-links when recent posts are scrolling your post off the page every 2 hours. What you want is a “hub” page that is highly ranked and that few people are posting about- or are tagged for.

I would prefer that to be a manual setting . . . the user decides what qualifies as “recent” and what does not. For example, I would STILL want to be informed of high ranking “hubs” even if the post was 3 hours ago . . . for my own reasons.

Pretty easy code to write for this little “hub” miner- heh?

If anyone has already written this - let us know!

- Russell

[blogger]

I haven't read Sean's ebook yet it sounds really black hat to me. But I'm really curious to know how can one create 40-100 different accounts?

[jera_c]

[Charles Heflin]

It will not be long before the major social bookmarking sites catch on to this. I wouldn't waste my time or money employing techniques or software that is geared to mass create accounts.

- Charles