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Charles Heflin
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Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 337

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: several topics. Reply with quote

I am currently working on a tutorial for using DRUPAL as a solution for building SILO'd sites.

I see this as a priority over RNW (Rapid Niche Websites) so my coverage of RNW will be put on delay as I see this "free" solution as more important.

Charles


themezoom wrote:
Hi folks,

I put super specific themes down at the bottom of the silo (i.e. expert verbiage). You can mix them in at different levels depending upon the site

Bottom line is really researching a market and understanding what you are up to, what you are selling, and no tool - not even TZ- will ultimately replace a good working knowledge of your verticle market.

Today I consulted for jasper kooij of http://www.ad-lit.com who I have collaberated with in order to use a software called "DRUPAL" to make silo structures.

This will be available via Charles and me and the SEO 2020 mentoring group. This is a "free" method that will allow you to silo in a "snap".

Here is a free example of a silo site using free software http://www.jasperkooij.com

So for those of you who have been asking about "blogging" and silo-ing. Well . . . here you have it.

Jasper and I are remodeling http://www.wistravel.com using the silo structure. This project should cover the "situation 3" website. (Pre-existing).

Expert specific termes and bottom of silo:


You may also use Latent Niche keywords as "expert verbiage" at the bottom of silos or anywhere else.

We will also offer "Amazon" statistically improbably phrases as "expert verbiage" keywords that will knock out the competition.

Also be advised that:

http://www.themezoom.com/public_audios/step-by-step-architecture.mp3

- is something you are probably going to want to listen to.

- Russell
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Charles Heflin
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Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 337

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a phone conversation with Russell, Jasper Kooij is working on a tutorial to create silo-d sites using the free Drupal software.

Once I get it, I will add my take on it and it will be made available to members of SEO 20/20.

The exact date of the release of this tutorial is still to be determined.

I will let everyone know the moment this is done.

Charles
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Dave P
SEO White Belt


Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 14
Location: Streamwood, IL USA

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Silo bottoms Reply with quote

Russell,

Where do you put links to buy affiliate products in the silo? At the very bottom? I currently have a gardening site that I restructured and at the bottom (2 folders below the top domain), I put links, photos to my affiliate account.

Example: Plant -> Flower -> White flower (links are here)

How does this match up with the silo structure philosophy?
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Steve-O
SEO Yellow Belt


Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Posts: 31

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: several topics. Reply with quote

Charles Heflin wrote:
I am currently working on a tutorial for using DRUPAL as a solution for building SILO'd sites.

I see this as a priority over RNW (Rapid Niche Websites) so my coverage of RNW will be put on delay as I see this "free" solution as more important.

Charles


Will this tutorial be available to all on the forum, or are you going to only include it in your Master Plan, where we would have to purchase that before obtaining the tutorial?

Thanks,
Steve-O
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themezoom
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Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 53
Location: Wisconsin Dells

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

Good question.

Again this depends.

Bottom of Silo is ideal, yes.

But please remember not to go silo crazy.

A link or two off your page after indexing is NOT going to kill you.

On the other hand, I like the idea of creating your OWN sales pages within your silo structure that support your theme . . . and link off to affiliate URL's from those pages.

Charles and I will discuss more of these issues at a later time, but it really depends if the Affiliate product is your FOCUS or if it one of MANY affilaite products in your portal. ( i.e. like context cash, etc). <---- not a recomendation to buy context cash- which tends to bleed theme relevance with almost never enough return on investment. However I can see using context cash or carefull placed affiliate links dcwn at the bottom of the silo post-indexing.

- Russell
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jeremy
SEO Green Belt


Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 142

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should we be concerned with theme density in a silo.

If I have 10 or 20 articles in a silo and they all cross link
to each other this will increase the keyword density.

Thanks,

Jeremy
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JoeCool
SEO Yellow Belt


Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 48
Location: Michigan, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles Heflin wrote:
I am currently working on a tutorial for using DRUPAL as a solution for building SILO'd sites.

I see this as a priority over RNW (Rapid Niche Websites) so my coverage of RNW will be put on delay as I see this "free" solution as more important.

Charles


Charles,

Even though Drupal is a free, open source content management platform, shouldn't we also consider WordPress (which is what RNW is based on) as a viable, and maybe better alternative?

Even putting RNW aside because it does have an initial cost, the fact is it's based on the very popular, and also free, WordPress platform. From what I've seen and read, WordPress is the most popular, most supported, open source CMS out there.

Could you and Russell possibly do a head-to-head comparison of Drupal and WordPress so that we're pretty sure we're going with a clear cut winner? I, for one, want to know that when all the factors of building powerful, user friendly, silo based websites are considered, that we are going with the "Google" of CMS, not the "Yahoo" or "MSN".

I also have another concern. Russell talked about future versions of ThemeZoom that would automatically build blueprinted, themed silo structures that we could fill in with our original content. From what I understood, this coming feature will only support the Portal Feeder and a few other expensive platforms.

Why do this when Portal Feeder, for one, is presently a membership site which (if I remember correctly) had a cost of over $200.00 per month, not to mention the fact that they are full and are not taking in any new members?

Why not base the MasterPlan and ThemeZoom systems of building silo structured sites on the best of the "Free" open source CMS platforms... WordPress, Drupal or one of the many others?

Best Regards,
JoeCool Cool
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Ahri22
SEO Blue Belt


Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 163
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Silo bottoms Reply with quote

Dave P wrote:
Russell,

Where do you put links to buy affiliate products in the silo? At the very bottom? I currently have a gardening site that I restructured and at the bottom (2 folders below the top domain), I put links, photos to my affiliate account.

Example: Plant -> Flower -> White flower (links are here)

How does this match up with the silo structure philosophy?


Hi Dave,

When I put links to affiliate products on my sites, I use the rel="nofollow" command, which means that (theoretically at least) the SEs shouldn't be able to follow the link and therefore you shouldn't have an PR bleed from the page.

Cheers
Fiona
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themezoom
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Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 53
Location: Wisconsin Dells

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Joe Cool Reply with quote

Joe Cool,

Yes.

Can you please look into this with me and Charles.

I use semiologic pro and have been tweaking a way to silo using Denis's SP (wordpress) issue.

Will you give me a brief summary of this software and how yoiu have used it to create a Silo structure?

If you have not yet done this- I can get a staff member to take a peek at it.

There are pros and cons about wordpress. But mostly pros.

e-mail me at russell@themezoom.com for more details. I can work with you- or let Charles take a look at the issue. I do not OWN the software- but will back-engineer it for silo-friendly functionality if Charles hs not already.

- Russell
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jeremy
SEO Green Belt


Joined: 18 May 2006
Posts: 142

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Russel and Charles,

I build my sites using a template I buy and
I use it with FP 2003. It has a spot for adsense
in the upper left css.

I just copy and paste my articles in and do the
internal linking myself.

Will I be able to use fp 2003 with your silo-ed website
creator or will I need to get Rapid Niche Builder.

Or maybe better your software will have a built in html
editor and ftp.

Jeremy

P.S. Everything being created in themezoom
and the software, pretty amazing. Very Happy
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